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relates to what he said about whether players should stand for the playing of the national anthem? >> it's a step in the right direction. as we said many times before, the president supports standing for the national anthem, saluting the flag and honoring those men and women in uniform that fight to protect it. >> the president feel the matter of principle that its not adequate to simple send a letter of condolence to the family of the slain service person as president bush and president obama typically did? does he feel that it was not adequate for president obama who has sent a letter to general kelly but not call him on the death of his son? >> i don't think there's anything that any president can do. there's never enough that a president can do for the families of those that are killed in action. the point the president was
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making is that there's a different process. sometimes they call, sometimes they write letters, sometimes they engage directly. the comments were i think taken very far out of context by the media. if there's any frustration, that's where it should be focused. >> let me ask you about something steve mnuchin said since you talked about the stock market a lot and the president does as well. he said, and i quote, there's no question in my mind if we don't get it done, meaning tax reform, you'll see a reversal of the gain. how concerned is the president at this point of that possibility? >> we're confident we'll get tax cuts done. that's what we're focused on. we'll continue pushing forward until we get there. >> on the health -- >> i'm sorry. one question today. >> the president tweeted about the california wild fire situation. does he have any plans at this
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point to visit california to survey the damage in person? if he doesn't, does that speak to lack of helping the state of california? >> not at all. the administration has been very engaged throughout this process. we're going to continue to be there, we're continuing to talk to state and local officials on the ground and make sure that whatever aid is needed that we can help provide that process. >> is he going to the state? >> there's not a trip planned right now but it's not been ruled out either. phillip? >> can you please clarify the president's position on the takeover -- and the president has an ally in general. >> as we said that position hasn't changed. we work all sides to avoid escalating this further. we oppose the violence from any party and we would like for them to be focused on help continue
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in the fighting against isis and iran. that's where we would like to see their energy focused. sorry. one question. >> it's been more than two months that the president declared the opioid epidemic a national emergency. he said a lot of work had to be done and called it time consuming work. what took it so long to detail the time consuming work and what players are involved? >> there's a very in depth process that goes with declaring a national emergency. a lot of stakeholders have been involved and we'll have more next week. i'm sticking to one question. >> following up on the tax reform. can we talk about the strategy from the white house going forward on this? i know that we've been told the
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democrats were a must have on the bill or on tax reform is. that where things are? >> it's simple. the strategy is to get enough votes to pass tax cuts. >> can you elaborate on getting them on board. >> i don't know why anybody won't want to get on board with providing tax cuts. >> it's been a month since hurricane maria hit puerto rico. when it comes to puerto rico, does the buck stop with president trump? >> we're continuing to do everything that we can to help the people of puerto rico. it's one of the reasons that the governor will be here at the white house tomorrow to continue those conversations, to talk about how best the federal government can help aid state
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and local governments. amen? >> thank you. the president once said that he considers himself to be a low interest rate guy. does he still consider himself to be a low interest rate guy and will that have any bearing on what he selects to run the fed? >> the president said he's interviewed a number of qualified individuals and he will make that announcement in the coming days. we can deliberate the details once that happens. >> what exactly is the president denying? is he denying that he spoke these words to the widow that he must have known what he signed up for or she took at this time wrong way and taken out of context? >> the president's call as accounted by multiple people in the room believed that the president was completely respectful, very sympathetic and
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expressed condolences of himself and the rest of the country and thanked the family for their service, commended them for having an american hero in their family. i don't know how you can take that any other way. >> he didn't say those words, the context -- he felt she took it -- >> i'm not going to get to the back and forth. the sentiment was very clear. he took a time to make a call to express his condolences to thank the family for this individual service. it frankly is a disgrace of the media to try to portray an act of kindness like that and that gesture and to try to make it into something that it isn't. peter? >> did the president speak to general john kelly before invoking his son's death? >> i know he spoke to general kelly multiple time yesterday and today. >> on this topic? does general kelly know he would
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be raising his son's memory when -- >> i'm not sure if he knew of that specific comment. but they certainly had spoken about it. he's aware and they have spoken several times since. >> can you describe how general kelly feels -- >> i think general kelly is disgusted the way this has been politicized and the focus is become on the process and not the fact that american lives were lost. he's disgusted and frustrated by that. if he has any anger, it's towards that. fred? >> yeah, the house -- [inaudible] has said the president would sign the legislation. is the white house putting pressure on the senate to pass the lindsey graham bill? >> what was the last part? >> is the white house putting pressure on the senate to pass the lindsey graham --
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>> i know there's been conversations about that and the administration supports that policy. beyond that, i don't know if there's been further conversations or pressure applied. certainly support that effort. >> congresswoman wilson, i talked to her a couple hours ago. she says that this is the president's benghazi. she said that jackson was a green beret, was in niger trying to find out information and doing a mission and boca horam. she says his transmitter was still transmitting and he wasn't located. what do you say about her comment that he did not know and the wife, the widow said that the president did not know his
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name and kept saying "your guy, your guy." >> just because he said that doesn't mean he knows his name. the president stated the hardest job he has is making calls like that. i think it's appalling what the congresswoman has done and the way she's politicized this issue and the way that she's trying to make this about something that it isn't. this is a president who loves our country very much, who has the greatest level of respect for men and women in the uniform and wanted to call and offer condolences to the family. to try to create something from that that the congresswoman is doing is frankly appalling and disgusting. >> what she said about the mission and -- >> as i said, i'm not going to get into the details of that action at this point. >> was she right? >> as i said before, i'm not going to get into the details of that action at this time. when we have further information, i'll be happy to discuss it with you. >> i just want to -- setting
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aside the congresswoman, setting aside the discussion about the politization of this, the woman that raised sergeant johnson said her son had been disrupted. given that somebody who has -- as you know, making these phone calls is one of the hardest thing the commander-in-chief does. is he now considering the way he communicates to the families? has general kelly counselled -- >> general kelly was present for the call and thought it was a completely appropriate. he thought the call was respectful and he thought that the president did the best job he could under those circumstances to offer condolences on behalf of the country. >> on nafta, the mexican negotiated have rejected the u.s. proposals that were
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described as troubling. >> as the president said, it's a bad deal and he wants to make sure that we have a deal that benefits american workers. that's what this administration is focused on. we're going to push forward. if we can't get there, we'll let you know what the changes are. franchesca? >> in a piece this morning, president trump said james comey lied and protected hillary clinton. he asked where is the justice department on this. what exactly does the president want the justice department to do? is he calling for prosecution of james comey? what is he asking here? >> the white house hasn't and won't offer a legal opinion on comey's conduct. the white house has deferred all legal questions to the department of justice. that's the appropriate venue for those things to be dealt with. >> what is the justice to do -- >> we refer any legal action to the department of justice. anything on that front would be
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handled by them. >> normally when the president is upset about him we hear from him pretty quickly. whether it's an issue with a senator or the nfl. so why did it take nearly two weeks for him to say something about this ambush, not to reach out to the families but to offer public condolences or to explain to the american public what happened and how this deadliest combat mission involving u.s. troops went wrong? >> there's a protocol for that. we did make public remarks from the administration. i know i did in short order from the podium at the direction of the president. i speak on his behalf. i did that on behalf of the president and the administration. >> sarah, you brought up politicizing in respect to wilson. did the president politicize general kelly's son death by bringing up by what past presidents did and didn't do.
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>> he responded to a question and stated a fact. >> just to clarify your earlier answer. you're not denying that in some point in the conversation the president used the words "that's what he signed up for?" >> i spoke specifically to the sentiment that was offered by the president. i didn't get to the details of a personal call. i don't find it to be appropriate. trey? >> you spoke at the top discussing the liberation of raqqa. so my question for you, how does the president envision future u.s. involvement in both syria and iraq post isis? >> we want to continue to work with our coalition forces to completely destroy and defeat isis. right now that's the priority. that's the focus. that's where we're going to continue to be focused on at this time. thank you guys so much for today. see you tomorrow. >> shepard: sarah sanders wrapping up the daily briefing there at the white house among other things. she defended president trump's phone call to the widow of an
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american soldier that died in an ambush in niger earlier this month. the president says a congress woman fabricated a story that he insulted the soldier's widow. the florida democrat says she was in the car. they were friends with the family she said with the widow earlier this week when the president telephoned. congresswoman wilson said the president was disrespectful to the family and told the widow her husband knew what he signed up for. earlier today, president trump said the story is made up. >> didn't say what that congresswoman said. didn't say it at all. she knows it. she is now not saying it. i didn't say what she said. i'd like her to make the statement again. i did not say what she said. i had a very nice conversation with the woman, with the wife who sounded like a lovely woman. did not say what the congress woman said and most people aren't too surprised to hear
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that. >> shepard: the congresswoman has not changed her story and neither has the family. after the president made those comments, congress woman wilson tweeted says "i still stand by my account of the call with president trump and mrs. johnson. that her name, mr. trump, not the woman or the wife. the mother of the army sergeant that died is backing up the congresswoman's story. she tells the associated press she was in the car when the president phoned. she said the congresswoman's statement is true and the president showed disrespect to the family. chief white house correspondent john roberts is live with more. >> good afternoon. the press secretary pushing back very hard on this, particularly the timing as well. the first questioned about this is why did it take so long for the president to mention this. sarah huckabee sanders said the notification didn't come over from the pentagon until monday. went to the white house military office on monday and then the
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decision was then made to make the condolence calls. the president said monday that he had been writing letters over the weekend of condolence to the family. she also said, sarah huckabee sanders, the call and the tenor of the call were absolutely appropriate for the president to make that call to the widow, mrs. johnson of sergeant david t. johnson. here's how she put it in terms of who was on the call, the tone of the call and what was being monitored. >> no. there was several people in the room from the administration that were on the call, including chief of staff, general john kelly. >> she said it was disgraceful what the congress woman from florida is doing and as well she singled out the media for trying to make this into something that it's not. shep, the one thing she wouldn't talk about is the actual text of the call. i don't know if they have that, if there's a transcript somewhere. with the number of the people on
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the call, you think there would be corroborating evidence to back up the president. >> john, the white house says president trump does not support the bipartisan healthcare deal but he thinks it's on the right track. now, this comes after president trump changed his mind on this agreement. you may remember yesterday the president at first called the plan "a very good solution." today he said he can never support it. two senators worked out the deal, lamar alexander and patty murray. the agreement would continue payments to health insurance companies that president trump has blocked. those payments are to help keep costs down for low income americans. president trump says he will not get behind anything that, as he puts it, lines the pockets of insurance companies. >> i won't do anything to enrich the insurance companies. right now the insurance companies have being enriched, have been enriched by obamacare like nothing anybody has ever seen before. i'm not going to do anything to
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enrich the insurance companies. >> shepard: in the rose garden yesterday, the president said he was involved in the negotiating of the agreement to continue the payments. just hours later, at the conservative heritage foundation, the president said he commends the bipartisan efforts, but called the deal a bail-out of insurance companies. the president said congress needs to find a better solution. back to john roberts at the white house. a change in position. >> a little bit, shep. in the early going, this is something that the president might be able to get behind yesterday when he was asked by jennifer jacobs from bloomberg about the deal that was just announced. he seemed to indicate it was a good thing. he said the devil is in the details. now the devil appears to be too much for the white house to swallow. i asked sarah huckabee sanders what were the concerns that the president had about the alexander-murray bill. let's listen here.
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>> can you articulate the concerns? >> we want something that doesn't bail out insurance companies by provides relief for all americans, this bill doesn't address that fact. so we want to make sure that that is taken care of. we think that this is the step, a good step in the right direction. this president certainly supports republicans and democrats coming to work together. but it's not a full approach and we need something to go a little further. >> more specifically in terms of the concerns, an administration official tells fox news that alexander murray has two years of support without reforms necessary to lower costs in the obamacare markets. doesn't give hhs significant new waiver authority and provides $100 million in unrelated obamacare advertising. the way they're looking at this now, there's nothing to guarantee this won't be a bailout for the insurance companies and then there's these millions of dollars in unrelated costs. so at the moment, shep, it's a
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nonstarter. speaker paul ryan on capitol hill saying the same thing. shep? >> shepard: thanks, john. we're tracking a man hunt in maryland. cops say a man opened fire at his job dealing three and wounding two more. police warning the suspect is armed and dangerous and on the run. sadly, breaking this afternoon, there's word he has opened fire somewhere else. more on healthcare. a lot of talk about today's white house briefing. we'll go live to capitol hill. plus, live right now, speaking with the situation, the widowed soldier and the rest. let's listen in. >> there's no doubt in my mind, none at all, that he cares about those that serve. none, zero. >> senator, on another subject. >> is the healthcare compromise
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debt? >> the continued payments have to be married up with reform. i appreciate what senator murray did with senator alexander. senator johnson is working on a broader list of reforms. i think there's a lot of republicans willing to continue the payments if the patients benefit and if the we can get reform to a broken obamacare system. nobody believes this fixes obamacare permanently, but there's plenty of republicans that are willing to continue the payments, including president, if you get real reform. senator alexander's bill is not enough for many people. so maybe senator johnson can close that gap. >> if the speaker of the house, paul ryan, knows he not interested in anything that won't repeal and replace obamacare, what is the point in continuing with something that has no chance in the house? >> you don't want to pass something that has no chance in the house. here's the question for paul
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ryan. are you interested in continuing the payments if we can get more flexibility? if you're not, tell us. then the payments stop and then we'll all accept the consequences of that. there will be some heart ache out there if the payments don't continue. i don't blame president trump for stopping the payments. they're illegal. the president would like to find a way to continue them but he has to get something meaningful before us. >> president trump was being credited by your colleagues for basically forcing them -- he says i'm not going to pay the insurance companies anymore. so you have to make a deal. democrats and republicans. if there is no deal, whose fault is this? >> all i can say is if you're going to force somebody to do something, you think they have to make a deal, you should know whether or not they have to make a deal. all i can say is he was right to stop the payments legally. i don't want to throw good money after bad. but if the idea was to force us to do something and the house is not interested in doing
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anything, that was a miscalculation. >> the president said yesterday if you guys can ever figure out how to repeal obamacare, he wants the replacement to look like what you been working on, give block grants to the state is. that realistic? >> totally. the more obamacare collapses, the more we need to do something. the one thing everybody agrees on virtually is obamacare can't be fixed. bernie sanders says fix it for a little while and then we'll replate it with medicare for all. the democrats are not saying obamacare is the answer. they say single payer healthcare is the answer. republicans are saying let's replace it with the graham cassidy block grant approach. that's where the president is at. the president says what are we doing the next two years? we can't implement the block grant until 2020. what do you do between now and 2020? it's the two years we're worried about. can you do something to ease the
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pain? i'm willing to do that if it's a meaningful reform of the existing system. >> so you're basically saying no matter what happens, repeal or no repeal, changes are not going to be noticed for two years so may as well make payments -- >> there's no way states can accommodate a block grant between now and next year. the graham-cassidy bills turns this over in 2020. there's no way to transition from obamacare to a block grant in a year. two, three years will be required. what do you do in the interim? create the least amount of chaos as possible. the president knows that. paul ryan is for that. he is for graham-cassidy. >> president mitch mcconnell? does he have the juice to get this through in the senate? >> here's what we have to decide. is the house in a position to make changes until we can
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replace obamacare with graham-cassidy. if they're not in that mindset, there's nothing that mitch mcconnell can do. the president is in that mindset. he's willing to continue the payments until we replace obamacare with graham-cassidy if he can get flexibility for the payments in the interim. not throw good money after bad. clearly alexander murray is not selling in the house. can senator johnson come up with a better deal? we're talking about a temporary deal. whether there is one or not, how much flexibility can you get for two or three years of csr payments. nobody on the republican side is talking about propping up obamacare. i would rather politically die than prop up obamacare because it can't be saved. >> thanks, senator. >> thank you. >> there was a lot of headlines
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there. well, senator graham was basically making the case to keep paying, keep giving federal money to insurance companies to participate in these obamacare exchanges to keep them alive for two years because he says it doesn't matter what they do. you can repeal obamacare today and nobody will know. the plans won't change in a meaningful way for another two years. that's what they're trying to do. there does seem to be a general consensus, bipartisan consensus that that is something that should be done so premiums don't really spike. but over the last two hours or so, we've been hearing from republicans after republicans that this lamar-alexander, the democrat plan to stabilize the markets, to keep making the payments the next two years is not the way to go. perhaps the biggest nail in the coffin there is the speaker of the house, paul ryan, that said
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look, we don't want to hear in the house about anything else having to do with making these obamacare payments that the house is suing for because they think they are unconstitutional and illegal. so no matter what they do here, ryan says just send it once it's repealed. >> shepard: let's cut through the noise a little bit. what happened, the president is saying the subsidies are illegal. a matter that is still up for debate. and he wants them stopped. he was stopping them. a day later, this bipartisan group, lamar alexander of tennessee and murray came together and figured out a way to fund those subsidies for two years. the effect of that is that everyday folks, poor people wouldn't have access to insurance won't have it and will now. but the biggest thing, they didn't want the healthcare system to collapse. the insurance companies need certainty about how much money is coming in. they need to know we will have
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this money that the government has already promised to prop up, to make co-payments and others for poor people. that will stabilize the markets, keep the insurance companies in the game and allow everybody to have insurance. but if you take those away, the insurance companies will begin to drop off in places because they can't budget, they can't forecast with no certainty. they don't know what anything will cost. so if they pull out of the marketplaces, that could be the final collapse of obamacare. democrats are calling that sabotage on the system using this claim that they're illegal, the subsidies are illegal using that claim to collapse the system that republicans couldn't vote out. so now we have a position where they had the bipartisan agreement to make the funding temporary for two years so poorer people could have their insurance and the insurance companies remain in the market. the effect of not having that may be the collapse of obamacare. is that their goal? they have said that -- what the president has said in the past, peter, just let it collapse.
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this is certainly the medicine that would create that. if you pull these subsidies out, the insurance companies don't know whether they'll have the money or not. they'll begin to fall away and could very well all collapse. the question is who gets the blame, peter. >> well, the question really though is obamacare ever really going to be repealed. in may when the house passed their american healthcare act, the replacement, didn't fully repeal obamacare. just used that as a shell and took a bunch of stuff out and replaced it things that the republicans want. the republican position, especially in the house that would have to approve anything that they do there is that these to insurance companies are basically a bail-out. it's telling an insurance company we will give you money to offer obamacare plans that you wouldn't otherwise offer because you're not going to make as much money on them as if you
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didn't have to offer them. so nobody is really talking about collapsing the healthcare system when they say they want to get rid of obamacare. at this point, the discussion is about some sort of aid. they don't like -- >> shepard: it was the president that said let obamacare -- it's a satellite delay. i apologize. go ahead, peter. >> so basically when they talk about obamacare collapsing, the discussion here on capitol hill is not about just leaving nothing there. it's about putting something in place but they would rather see the piece of paper that obamacare is written go away and then have the system still stay stable. they cannot agree. and even republicans amongst themselves cannot agree anymore what a replacement should look like, shep. >> shepard: great. peter doocy, thanks.
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let's go to tom. he did say let obamacare collapse. pull the money out, that's what it will do. >> that's right. look what is happening this week though. that's what is funny about this. now he's in negotiations with the two senators trying to put together this stop-gap, temporary, however you want to call it measure and looks like there's some possible traction for it. very interesting comments there from senator graham to peter doocy. this obviously is an important player. he's an important player in this. worth noting that senator graham is very recently the president's golf buddy. so i think you can take what he's saying there with some extra credence. >> shepard: and particularly which items did he mention are of substance as we look at getting healthcare for everybody at a price they can afford? >> why are so many things with congress, the hill, law making in general, they want to buy time? that's what they want to happen
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here. as graham pointed out, he said democrats probably want medicare for all or some kind of single players. republicans want an end to obamacare. this would buy two years. the question now as he pointed out, you guys pointed out, what does the house do? where do they go with this? it's very interesting where trump is in this. his admission that he is involved in the negotiations even though he's not entirely on board with it. a big announcement. >> shepard: what happens if you pull this money, if you pull the subsidies as the president said he would and there's no fix? what happens then? >> well, you're going to have a lot of pain across the nation. these people that can't -- most likely for the lower income folks that wouldn't be able to make these payments or have to find some other way to make these payments. that seems to be the concern
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here, the cost-sharing subsidies. further whether the markets start to collapse, too, as insurers start to pull out is an even deeper question. you asked the question earlier who gets the blame for this. that is the big political question here. right? is this obamacare or is it as the democrats say, is it a trump care? we don't know the answer to that. in many ways, look at how long we've been talking about obamacare. we've been talking about this for almost a decade now. it takes a long time for these things to pan out. different factors can push it one way or another. a lot of peril for both sides. >> shepard: everyone on the hill must know now if the lower income voter notice longer have insurance and are left out in the lurch to find for themselves and catastrophic things happen in their families, they're not going to look random at washington. they're going to look at politicians that made this happen. every politician on the hill is
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aware of that. nobody wants that to happen or at least nobody wants to get the blame for that. >> there's one thing that was unstated by graham, by the president, which i'm certain that they're all thinking about. and that is the mid-term elections. two years carries you through november 2018. a lot can change. you can have a change of control of the house. your margins change. that changes the calculus. i'm certain that is weighing heavily on them. >> shepard: tom thanks, and a backing up vehicles. great to see you again. >> doing the hard work here. >> shepard: the attorney general jeff sessions once again is defending his contacts with russian officials during the 2016 campaign. today he told the senate committee that he met with the russian ambassador as part of his former job as a senator. not as a supporter of the trump campaign. one democrat accused sessions of moving the goal posts in his answers. >> first it was i did not have
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communications with russians, which was not true. then it was i never met with any russians to discussion any political campaign, which may or may not be true. now it's i did not discuss interference in the campaign. >> let me just say this without hesitation, that i conducted no improper discussions with russians at any time regarding a campaign or any other item facing this country. >> shepard: back in march, sessions recused himself from the justice department's investigation into russian election meddling with possible collusion with members of trump's team. but session is still a big part of the investigation itself because he recommended that president trump fire james comey as the fbi director. the president said he would have done it anyway. a few months ago, sessions told a different committee that he would not talk about his private
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conversations with the president because of maybe there will be executive privilege. that's been a fun area. the president hasn't exerted executive privilege but sessions is maintaining his ability to do so by not talking about his -- by not talking about anything that he said to him. which is sort of executive privilege without having it, which is very helpful. leading into today's hearing, democrats said sessions should find out whether president trump would use that privilege and on which topics or be ready to answer questions. the chief intelligence correspondence catherine herridge is live on capitol hill. quite the merry go round this morning. >> republicans and democrats wanted the attorney general to answer questions about his role in the firing of director comey. >> the american people have a right to know why he was fired, especially in the middle of so many high profile issues going on, including investigation into
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russian interference in the 2016 election. >> it's important i believe to understand what role you had in this process. including conversations with the president and others in the white house. >> back in may, sessions and his deputy rod rosenstein drafted memos, recommendations as comey's performance as fbi director and his decisions to recommend against charges. you'll remember that the president told nbc news that the russia investigation was also a factor. here's senator finestein. >> did the president ever mentioned to you his concern about lifting the cloud on the russian investigation. >> senator feinstein, that calls for a communication that i've had with the president and i believe it remains confidential.
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>> but you don't deny that there was a communication. >> i do not confirm nor deny the existence of any communication between the president that i consider to be confidential. >> the attorney general testified that he's not been interviewed by robert mueller and his office told reporters that he's not been asked to be questioned by that team, shep. >> shepard: thanks, catherine. let's go to josh gerstein. it was a part two of the previous in that you can have your executive privilege without having it, which isn't really sort of the spirit of how it's supposed to work. >> well, part of this is effectively partisan struggle, shep. the problem from the point of executive privilege is that republicans are in control here in congress. so they're really the only ones that can call the president's bluff. what sessions was saying today
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is we don't have to exert executive privilege until you put us on the spot and the chairman is the only person that can put them on the spot by advancing a contempt resolution or some kind of motion to compel answers to specific questions. democrats can ask as many questions they want and send up letters, but they'll never push the ball in the president's court and force him to exert executive privilege. >> shepard: did we learn anything today? >> i don't think we got any light shed on why comey was fired. you have a number of republican senators, it was interesting, saying that they still think that's an open question. grassley said the american people deserve an answer to that question. even senator lindsey graham said he's not buying the fact that he was fired over the handling of the clinton investigation. he pointed out it was months before he was fired in may but the alleged mishandling of the investigation took place almost a year earlier in june of the
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previous year. didn't seem like it was a sensible explanation. you never had sessions square up to whether or not that was why he was fired or was it because of the russia investigation. >> shepard: this dance over communications with russians is an interesting one with changes in the semantics of it all and never learning anything in particular. it's curious that they don't just say, yeah, i met with some russians. here's what we have to say. they said they didn't do anything wrong. so why not tell us? >> sessions has said he doesn't have a clear recollection of what was discussed at those meetings. that may by part of why he never mentioned them in the first place. you're right. it's been somewhat of an evolving story. part of what is going on, there may be some classified information, some intelligence intercepts that are not public in which russians may give accounts of these meetings. they might be lying or boasting or exaggerating. sessions doesn't want to be in a position when that information does become public and maybe is
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declassified at some point where he's contradicted by some information that he may not have access to right now. >> shepard: that makes sense. josh gerstein, nice to talk to you. senior reporter for political. u.s. backed forces in syria removing land mines and clearing roads around raqqa a day after they said they took that city back from the islamic state terrorists. a spokesman for the syrian democratic forces says they're preparing to formally declare the city liberated. here's some of the troops celebrating. isis fighters named raqqa their capitol after taking control three years ago now. this morning a spokesman for the u.s.-led coalition tweeted the city is 95% under full control. the coalition warns 100 middle stands may still be in the city and thousands are expected to be out there. the fight with isis not over. the security guard that seemed to vanish after the las vegas shooting just turned up here inside your television box. he's talking about being the first person to take a bullet on
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that deadly night. we'll hear exactly what he had to say to ellen degeneres. that's coming up.
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>> shepard: we're hearing from the security guard shot in the las vegas massacre after reports that he somehow disappeared. gentlemjesus campos is on the r here. according to the mandalay bay resort and casino, jesus campos just wanted privacy after the shooting. he broke his silence with his own bullet wounds still bleeding. >> at first, i took cover. i felt the burning sensation. i went to go lift my pant leg up and i saw the blood. that's when i reported the shots
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were fired. i was going to say i was hit. i wanted them to coordinate the rest of the call. >> the other worker on the couch there, mandalay bay worker credited with saving his life. trace gallagher has the rest of the story. trace? >> shep, jesus campos said he was on the 31st floor when he got a call about a door left adjar. as he made his way to paddock's room, he noticed the door to the stairwell had a bracket holding it shut. that's when he called for maintenance. campos believes he got the attention of stephen paddock because at first he heard drilling sounds and then the rapid fire of gun shots. campos says he got shot, radioed for help and took cover. watch. >> there was a female that came out and i told her to go back inside. it wasn't safe.
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shortly after, that's when stephen was approaching. i told him to stay back and get cover. that's when more rounds were dispersed. >> shepard: stephen said he could feel the compression of the bullets and campos save his life. there were no questions about the timeline which has changed three times. first police say he diverted his attention to stop causing them to fire on the crowd below. and then they said campos was shot six minutes before the crowd and then he was shot within 40 seconds of the mass attack. it's unclear why ellen was chosen for the interview. but mgm which owns mandalay bay has ellen slot machines in all of its casinos. >> shepard: trace gallagher live. and a man accused of stabbing and slicing his wife 123 times claims no, cost syrup did it.
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matthew phelps told police he took touch cough syrup to help him get to sleep last month. he said he had a dream about killing his wife. when he turned the lights on, her bloody body was on the floor in their raleigh,north carolina home. >> i have blood all over me. there's a bloody knife on the bet. i think i did it. >> shepard: the potential side effects of cough medicine can include hallucinations and out of body experiences. the pharmaceutical company, bayer said -- >> shepard: matthew phelps facing charges of first degree murder. coming up, an update at the shooting at an office park in maryland. a multistate man hunt underway.
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headed to delaware. police say the same man has relatives in the area and now there's word that that believe he shot an associate of some kind at a used car lot. the baltimore sun newspaper reports one of his previous employers fired him earlier this year after he attacked a colleague. a sheriff in maryland said today that this man, prince, worked at the counter top company for about four months and appears to have specifically targeted his co-workers there. but no -- that, they say, is who they believe he shot but there's no word on why he did it. the sheriff also warning just because the suspect earlier left maryland does not mean folks there should let down their guards. >> he's an armed killer out there. so certainly he's a danger to anyone he encounters. so we should be aware. he's mobile. he can be back in ten minutes. >> investigators say they're looking for this vehicle, a 2008
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gmc acadia with delaware plates. they say they believe he's still driving it around and obviously if you spot him, do not approach him. just call the cops. aviation officials in chicago have fired two officers that were involved in a dragging of a man, dragging him off a united airlines flight and sending him to the hospital with a concussion and a bloody face. officials also u.s. spended the two other officers. investigators say officers made misleading statements and left stuff out of their reports on purpose. here's what happened. >> oh, my god! oh, no. >> my god. what are you doing? >> united airlines reported the man had reserved and paid for his seat but airline officials say they bumped him from if flight to make room for traveling crew members i when he wouldn't leave, officers removed him from his seat and dragged
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him up the aisle. the man's later said he reached a settlement with united. investigators say a pilot flying the final trans atlantic flight for air berlin buzzed the tower. to mark the occasion, the pilot apparently performed this stunt upon arrival. the plane waves its wings over the runway and gets close to the building before the video stops. the pilot under investigation by german aviation officials. ahead, police catch quite a sight on camera, a night vision camera. see that? you know what is happening there? those are not llamas. neither is a bull. this is a new thing. the brawl in the bush coming up.
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>> shepard: this is a waterfall in northern england. as you can see, the water is not falling. it's more the opposite. apparently the winds from tropical storm ophelia are so strong, they're causing the water to go up the hill. which is weird. great fights in history include the rumble in the jumble, the thrilla in manila and now the big ta-do in australia. the roo threw some jabs and a drop kick. clearly illegal. go, roo, go. on this day in 1977, the new york yankees outfielder reggie jackson hit three home runs against the l.a. dodgers. jackson hit his home runs off three consecutive pitches from
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three difference pitchers. reggie jackson became mr. october 40 years ago today. all rise for the judge! aaron judge up in one hour on fox sports 1. >> neil: all right. a big milestone for the dow. it crosses easily 23,000. now 844 points away from 24,000. at the rate we're going, don't be surprised if that too happens this year. the latest boost to the dow and all of these milestones, of course, anticipation of continued low interest rates or relatively low. but on this day, we scored a 51st record close for the dow, more than any other year in history. also optimism that the tax cuts are going through and better than expected earnings. and for